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October 11, 2009

I hope Obama Fails

Filed under: kamakula,politics — kamakula @ 12:44 pm
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Even if you hate Obama or don’t approve, endorse, or agree with anything he stands for, you actually have to wish, hope, pray, that he is successful in some degree.

Let us posit that you want Obama to fail. What does that mean? It means that you want his policies and programs to be so badly planned, managed, operated, funded, that it damages the nation. You are in essence actively campaigning for further damage to your country.

Now, if you find yourself saying “wait a minute, I don’t want to country to get worse than it is, just for Obama to do badly so that nobody wants to elect him again”, you are really hoping that Obama is just ineffectual.

So, again, what does that mean? Well, there are two options. One is that Obama maintains the status quo. Things remain as bad as they are. We don’t get better, but relatively speaking, things don’t get worse. Here is the problem with that – if things are the same in 2012 as they were in 2008, the incoming president will have an even deeper hole to dig himself or herself out of. It is not as if we are currently riding a wave of success and prosperity. So, maintaining the current economic conditions is a very very bad idea.

Thus, the only way you can get your wish, that Obama be ineffectual to the point of having no chance at a second term, and yet not have this country worse off is to have Obama be successful. To have him make positive change.

So, seeing as even for those who hate Obama, but love America, you actually need Obama to have some modicum of success, why don’t you just temporarily join hands with us who support him and make that happen. Then in 2012, you can have a go at voting him out of office.

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3 Comments »

  1. The flaw is in the second paragraph “It means that you want his policies and programs to be so badly planned, managed, operated, funded, that it damages the nation. You are in essence actively campaigning for further damage to your country.”

    We do not want anyone’s plans to be bad for our country but the fact is his (and the democrat controlled congress’) plans are already badly planned, badly managed, badly operated and badly funded and they are and will continue to make things worse for our country. Yes, we want him to fail in implementing these plans.

    Comment by Bill England — April 9, 2010 @ 11:11 am | Reply

  2. The Democratic Party currently has a majority in congress. If there is a “Democrat Party”, they don’t have any national representation. It is hard to rationalize the argument that Obama’s policies are bad for the country, given that most of them are just further iterations of policies we have had before – which in some cases worked well.

    For example, if we look strictly at the national debt since WWII (because the further we go back in time the blurrier the line between what we now recognize as the Democratic and Republican parties), it has always grown under Republican presidents and shrunk under Democratic ones.

    I realize there are fundamental differences in fiscal policies and what even you and I “think” is right. What gets my votes are results and Democrats have consistently delivered results which are in line with what I feel is right for the country.

    But returning to your statement – the phrasing, “I hope he fails” is malformed if what you mean is that you want him to fail in implementing a specific plan. If you want him to fail at implementing ALL his plans, then regardless of what you actually think about them, we now have a problem. Because since he is the president and ultimately signs off on EVERY piece of legislation and given that the majority of congress is from the Democratic party, Obama’s agenda will more or less be the one that is implemented. And regardless of what you may think of it, we would be worse off if nothing happens than if his plans are pushed through, as disagreeable as it may seem to you.

    That was essentially the point I was making in the post – that like it or not, we all need Obama to be successful.

    Comment by kamakula — April 10, 2010 @ 8:14 pm | Reply

  3. The other issue with Bill’s argument is that Obama failing does not mean that simultaneously his opponents will win. No, if Obama’s agenda fails, it means nothing gets done. This is the case because like it or not, Obama and the Democrats control a sizable portion of Congress. Given that nothing is not a preferable alternative, regardless of your political philosophy, it is in everyone’s interest that he succeeds to some degree.

    Comment by kamakula — June 30, 2010 @ 11:42 pm | Reply


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